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Update Megaweek, Day 8: Bergman Vs. Fellini, 8 1/2 Meets All These Women

Let's shake things up for the conclusion of Fellini Week, shall we?  Besides covering one of Fellini's best known and well regarded films, 1963's 8 1/2, which I think would be a worthy conclusion on its own, I thought I'd pair it up with Ingmar Bergman's barbed 1964 response, All These Women.  Wikipedia calls it a "parody" of 8 1/2, which I wouldn't say is quite accurate, and theretroset.com describes it as "a plot largely inspired by Federico Fellini's 8 1/2," which is getting warmer.  The relationship between the two films is both more distant and indirect, yet more critically pointed than that.  On the surface, they're entirely different and essentially unrelated, but the film seems to exist as a criticism of the attitude Fellini displays towards women in his picture.

Update 12/24/19 - 6/4/21: Adding the Essential Fellini boxed set edition.

Update 4/29/26: What's up, film nerds?  Not satisfied until your Fellini is in 4k?  Me neither!  I got your back with Criterion's 2024 UHD release of 8 1/2.  What's that?  Not nerdy enough?  Well, guess what?  Since it's Update Megaweek, I went back and wrote a whole, long thing on the 1986 version of Northanger Abbey.  How ya like me now?
There have been other filmmakers to wrestle with 8 1/2 as well.  Peter Greenaway's 8 1/2 Women is an obvious one, and Woody Allen practically remade the film with Stardust Memories.  And it's been argued that nearly any self-reflexive film about filmmaking is inherently some sort of nod to 8 1/2, from The Pickle to Lucio Fulci's Cat In the Brain.  Now, it has to be said that Fellini didn't exactly invent narrative movies about movie making... a couple of the more obvious examples include Singin' In the Rain, Sullivan's Travels and heck, even King Kong.  But he definitely blurred the meta lines even further between the picture and the frame by making his movie about his own (albeit somewhat fictionalized) specific struggles to create the particular film we're watching, and we meet multiple versions of the same characters and events: as they're depicted in the film, and how they're depicted in the film they're creating within the film.
But what makes 8 1/2 so compelling is that, even if you took all of that invention and novelty which causes 8 1/2 to be so recognized and put it aside, the film still works as a dramatically potent character study.  It's ability to capture humanity is up there with the greats, Nino Rota delivers one of his most iconic scores, and Marcello Mastrionni is a master at multi-dimensionalizing the role of the director, while still projecting a kind of unreal, hyper-cool Hollywood mask of a man as the same character - the perfect performance for the sort of conflicted, multi-tiered storytelling Fellini is experimenting with.  And sure, Fellini's portrayal of women here is... not great.  I mean, to some degree I'd argue that the most infamous scene, where Mastrionni whips at the women in his life who are all living in a personal harem isn't a depiction of a literal man and whipping actual women but someone fighting with the images he has of them in his own mind.  It's clear in the film this isn't meant to happen outside of his own head, and there are a few nods towards objective fairness pushing back against the character's sexism (for example, Mastrionni is told he's being a hypocrite because he, too, has past the age that he considers worthy of amorous obsession).  But, yeah, to watch it today, you do have to bear in mind that this was made by an older man in 1960's Italy when the culture was still struggling with equal rights and its relationship to women (the International Feminist Collective wasn't even started there until almost a decade later); Bergman wasn't keying into nuthin'.
So now 8 1/2's history on US DVD has a bit of a curve ball in it.  Criterion first issued it in 2001 as a 2-disc special edition.  And when it was time for the film to come out on blu, Criterion was ready with their 2010 blu, with additional extras and everything.  Standard story.  Oh, and they also included a barebones edition in vol 5 of their hefty Essential Art House DVD sets.  But for whatever reason, in 2002, Image also released 8 1/2 on DVD in the US.  Widescreen, but no extras, single disc, just a year after Criterion's.  Why?  As a budget alternative?  Maybe, but it's list price wasn't particularly low.  The rights for 8 1/2 must've just been a little freer than usual, I guess.  You don't see that happening with most other Criterion titles.  Anyway, it's an odd little curiosity, so I just had to get all three versions to compare for Fellini Week.  And then, of course, I also had to include the new and improved 2020 BD edition, still only available in their Essential Fellini box set. and their latest 4k Ultra HD set from 2024.
1) 2001 Criterion DVD, 2) 2002 Image DVD, 3) 2010 Criterion BD,
4) 2020 Criterion BD, 5) 2024 Criterion BD, 6) 2024 Criterion UHD.





First off, there's nothing egregiously wrong with any edition.  They're all uncut, widescreen, anamorphic and progressive (as opposed to interlaced).  Size-wise, though, each iteration of 8 1/2 seems to fluctuate a bit.  Criterion started us off with a reasonably credible aspect ratio of 1.78:1, just slightly windowboxed to protect for overscan, as Criterion was wont to do in their early days.  Image's DVD then zooms in tighter for a clearly inaccurate AR 1.75:1.  In 2010, then Criterion widened their image even further to 1.85:1, revealing more on all four sides compared to Image's disc, but primarily just on the left compared to their initial DVD.  Criterion's DVD is a bit brighter than the others, and Image's has dirt and debris (look at Barbara Steele's cheek) that Criterion cleaned up.

As for the HD, well, Criterion's booklet tells us the blu was "created on a Spirit Datacine from a restored 35mm fine grain master positive made from the original negative."  And it's obviously a substantial boost in clarity compared to the DVDs, which look fairly equivalent in this regard.  But in terms of film grain and fine detail, well it's inconsistently captured and occasionally blocky, and some shots seem to have been artificially sharpened or otherwise tinkered with... A thoroughly satisfying upgrade in 2010, but not quite up to the top standards of today.
ltr: 2010 Criterion BD, 2020 Criterion BD.
Criterion's 2020 blu is a 4k scan taken from the original 35mm camera negative.  Probably the first thing you'll notice is brighter shadows, revealing detail that was harder to discern (though to be fair, wasn't crushed) on the older disc without over-brightening the whole picture.  Still matted to 1.85:1, the framing pulls out to reveal even more picture.  The slight blocky pixelation I mentioned has been improved, and the tinkering (you won't notice it in the shot of Barbara, but look at Marcello and the tiles behind him in the first set of shots) is gone, which is a relief.  Look at the haloing on the left.  So, yes, it's now been brought up to the standards of today.

...Which is why I was so surprised to see the haloing back in 2024!  Yes, for whatever reason, the 2024 2-disc doesn't include a new blu, or even the 2020 blu, but the old 2010 blu.  WTF?  Fortunately, it's just the secondary disc packaged with a superior, next gen disc.  So I'll only really use the 1080p disc for the extras.  But if you haven't gone 4k yet, be prepared not to get the newer transfer in the latest set.  The important thing is that the UHD has the new scan, and on an actual 4k disc, making it the best available version available.  No HDR, but grain is much clearer and more distinct, and the boost in resolution is genuine for anyone with a set big enough to appreciate it. 

All these editions simply offer the original Italian mono track with optional English subtitles, though the blu-rays and UHD bump it up to lossless LPCM and take a second pass at translating the subs for a more natural, grammatical read.
Fellini: A Director's Notebook
Image's DVD is barebones - not even the trailer - but Criterion gives this film the treatment it deserves.  Their 2-disc set starts out with an enthusiastic introduction by Terry Gilliam, followed by an audio commentary by Fellini's friend Gideon Bachmann combined with essays by scholar Antonio Monda read by an actress.  It's quite impressive, but not so much as the inclusion of Fellini: A Director's Notebook, a 1969 TV movie by Fellini where he goes over his process of making films.  I've seen this described as a documentary, but in fact, it's as fanciful and unreal as Roma or Intervista, with scenes of truckers magically becoming Roman centurions and a host of far-out characters who are presented as being authentic (i.e. hippies who've crashed his film set) but are clearly actors playing scripted roles.  Unfortunately, the picture quality leaves a lot to be desired [see above], but the impression I get is that we're lucky any version of it survives at all.

Anyway, that's far from all.  There's a substantial, 48 minute documentary on Nino Rota, and excellent on-camera interviews with Sandra Milo, Lina Wertmüller and cinematographer Vittorio Storaro.  There are also two photo galleries, the trailer, and a booklet with notes by Fellini himself, Tullio Kezich and Alexander Sesonske.  Criterion's blu, then, includes all of that but also adds a new, almost hour long documentary about Fellini's original intended ending for the film (including photos) and all the changes that were made along the way.

The 2020 blu has all the same extras (except technically, Fellini's Notebook has been moved to another disc in the set), with nothing new except, you know, all the other films and stuff in the collection.  But nothing more for 8 1/2.  And the same goes for the 2024 combopack, nothing new, nothing taken away.  In fact, that may well be why they gave us the 2010 BD instead of the 2024 BD: because Notebook was moved off the 2020 BD and they didn't want to lose any extras in 2024.  So, um, thanks?
Now the first time I saw All These Women, I wasn't aware of any connection to Fellini.  Roger Ebert famously called this the worst film Bergman ever made, and I wonder if he knew the intention either.  Because it's certainly never overtly stated, or even hinted at enough to suggest Bergman could feel the audience has to be acquainted with 8 1/2 to appreciate All These Women.  There's no nod to the meta aspect of 8 1/2 at all, nobody's a filmmaker or speaks of filmmaking in the story, and the look and tone of the film are worlds apart.  This one's about a stuffy music critic who arrives at the estate of a revered composer to interview him, but is constantly being lead around and misdirected by the collection of devoted women who all live there with him.  The women in 8 1/2 never all lived with the director like that, or fawned over him in such a way, except in that one sequence which was presented as a fantasy.  So the attitude Bergman seems to be rebelling against (and arguably with delusional levels of hypocrisy, given what we know of his own love life and relationships with his various leading ladies) is more just a general attitude, which could be found in any number of films just as much, if not moreso, than in 8 1/2.  But still, revisiting All These Women with Bergman's targeted intentions in mind, things do feel a little clearer and the satire a little more pointed.
This film's certainly an odd duck.  It has a very still look, almost like a film in tableau, where the camera delicately frames each shot and then does not move until the next scene.  This style is nothing like what we see in 8 1/2, so it doesn't come from that, but it's a style that absolutely draws attention to itself (including one or two sequences in black and white).  The script was actually co-written by one of Bergman's greatest actors, Erland Josephson, who doesn't appear in this one.  But we do get both Andersson sisters and the criminally underrated Eva Dahlbeck.  This is one of Bergman's rare comedies, a very heavy-handed slapstick farce, with the score repeatedly reverting back to the tune of "Yes! We Have No Bananas" as our leading man knocks over statues or stumbles down stairs.  It's sometimes amusing, but most of the humor (when it works, which isn't consistently) is more understated and hidden in the subtext. It's frantic enough to always hold your interest, and it's undeniably attractive to gaze at, so even if it's Bergman's worst film, that still places far above a great many other films out there with far fewer merits.
For ages, All These Women only had one English-friendly release: the region-locked 2004 Tartan DVD in the UK from their Bergman Collection.  But Criterion changed all that by giving the film it's first US release and the HD debut by including it in their massive Ingmar Bergman's Cinema boxed set in late 2018.
1) 2004 Tartan DVD; 2) 2018 Criterion BD.
Criterion widens out Tartan's ever-so-slightly windowboxed 1.33:1 fullscreen transfer just a tad to 1.38:1, which reveals a tiny sliver along the edges, but mostly crops in the bottom edge.  Criterion's book informs us that this one is a 2k scan of the 35mm interpositive, and while it isn't the most impressive transfer in their box (grain at times seems smoothed away, as if their scan didn't even capture it, and the bright white areas might've yielded a little more detail if they had the OCN), it's a huge leap beyond what we've had before.  Their BD displays more natural colors and much sharper detail compared to the old DVD with it's excessive contrast and a softness which suggests a videotape source overlayed with a little edge enhancement.  It's a fine BD transfer, just not on the cutting edge.  Meanwhile, the DVD was crying for an upgrade.  I mean, look at the first set of shots.  You can't even tell the men are wearing different color suits on Tartan's disc.
Both editions just include the original Swedish mono track with optional English subtitles, though Criterion's BD bumps theirs up to a heartier LPCM track.

Disappointingly, both discs are also essentially barebones.  Tartan threw in a couple of bonus Bergman trailers and an insert with notes by Philip Strick.  And Criterion... well it includes all the other films and generally Bergman-related extras that are part of the box, but nothing All These Women-specific except for the essay in their massive book.  An expert commentary or "visual essay" talking about the film's connection to 8 1/2 would've been nice, even if they couldn't have solicited any interviews, but oh well.
If it were any kind of competition, Fellini obviously won this round, but they both earned their place in cinema history.  Like, if you bought the big Criterion box but skipped All These Women because of its reputation, don't do that.  It's fun, just not on the same level as, say, The Seventh Seal.  And however much 8 1/2 might've gotten Bergman's back up at the time, his rejoinder couldn't have been too spitefully meant, as the pair announced a few years later that they planned to make a film together.  ...It didn't happen, but still.

Essential Fellini, Part 2: The Extravagant Years

And we're back, following Part 1 of our coverage of Criterion's giant-sized Essential Fellini blu-ray boxed set, with the second and final Part.  We're past all the early, 50's, neo-realist adjacent films of Federico Fellini's early career, and are now moving on to his more fanciful later work.  These tend to be the films of his I prefer, not just because they have more exotic, colorful imagery, but they also seem to be be - generally speaking, of course - digging at deeper, more personal issues at heart.  The 50s were a time of more on-the-nose melodrama, and now we move, not just to more expressionistic flourishes, but personalized art.

And because these tend to be my personally preferred films of his, it's no coincidence that this half of the set includes many films I've already covered on this site.  As of this writing, all of those pages, listed below, have been updated to include the new Essential Fellini discs:
Now we're in the realm of glorious color with 1965's Juliet Of the Spirits.  I just started to make a case of Fellini's later works being much more than just an excuse for over-the-top imagery and extravagant set-pieces, but if any film of his falls short of that claim, I think it's this one.  Giulietta Masina feels like she's struggling with little actual character to perform in this story of a jealous wife who gets caught up in the realm of the quasi-supernatural.  It's like this should be a journey of self-discovery, but Fellini and his co-writers don't have a film grasp, or even a strong interest, in Juliet's inner life, so they just distract themselves with wild supporting cast members, costumes and sets.  And they are all great fun to look at.  But ultimately, this feels like a much more hollow experience than the rest of Fellini's catalog.  But at least the surface is a treat.

Criterion first released this on DVD in 2002.  Cult Films released it on BD in the UK a couple years ago, but this set marks its HD debut in the US: a 4k restoration taken from the 35mm original camera negative and the interpositive.
2002 Criterion DVD top; 2020 Criterion BD bottom.
If any film needs to look good, it's this one, and Criterion's new blu is indeed a beaut.  The DVD, which was quite impressive for its time, now looks downright muddy and over-contrasty, though it might make the BD feel slightly pale in direct comparison.  The AR's been fixed from 1.81:1 to 1.85:1, with the framing also shifting slightly.  Jumping direct from SD to HD is obviously a huge boost in clarity, with a little old school tweaking being removed at the same time.  Grain does seem suspiciously light, though, so I wonder if a little tweaking is still on-hand.  But it's a big leap forward from the DVD in any case.

Both discs include the original Italian mono track with optional English subtitles, but the blu cleans it up and boosts it to LPCM.
Criterion's 2020 BD.
The extras are awfully interesting on this one, too.  To start with, the DVD offered a vintage TV interview with Fellini about the film and the trailer, both of which are happily ported to the blu.  The blu also adds a great, made-for-television behind-the-scenes documentary, which is the real gem.  That's about it for Juliet extras, but since this disc had some free space, they stuck some other nice odds and ends on here.  First, pictured above, is Fellini: A Director's Notebook, a great autobiographical little project Fellini made for Italian TV.  It was previously included on Criterion's 8 1/2 blu, and I've matched the screenshot from there so that you can see it's the same grubby transfer.  Still, it's a must-have for this collection.
Arrow's 2010 BD top; Criterion's 2020 BD bottom.
They've also included a new 4k restoration of Toby Dammit, which is both exciting and frustrating.  Toby, of course, is Fellini's segment from the anthology film Spirits Of the Dead.  It's exciting because: yay - new 4k scan of Fellini's loosely adapted Edgar Allen Poe story!  But it's frustrating because it doesn't include the rest of the film and they also give it a low 3GB encode, since I guess they're treating it like an extra.  Anyway, the encode's not really that bad; it's more just the fact that this is only a portion of a complete film.  It would've made more sense if Fellini's segments from Boccaccio '70 and Love In the City were also included in this set.  But hey, I'll take it.

As you can see, it adjusts the 1.85:1 framing to reveal a little more picture compared to Arrow's 2010 BD, and reworks the colors.  Grain might actually still be a bit stronger on the old BD, thanks to the encoding, which looks pretty digitized in parts on the Criterion.  So, you know, it's a nice extra on the surface; but you still need Arrow's blu, which then kinda renders it pointless.
And now we come to one of the reasons I was most excited to get this set, And the Ship Sailed On.  It's such a pure and complete cinematic experience, one of those you can watch over and over again.  Freddie Jones leads an ensemble cast as a journalist accompanying the most privileged elite of society on a romantic ocean liner trip where they almost manage to escape the harsh realities of their world.  Criterion put it out on DVD so long ago (1999) that it's not even anamorphic, rendering it virtually unwatchable in today's era.  The only BD available was a French disc from Gaumont, and a Brazilian boxed set of Fellini films, but neither offer English language options.  So we were badly in need of this Criterion 4k restoration, taken from the 35mm OCN.  One of my most desperate double-dips in a long time.
1999 Criterion DVD top; 2020 Criterion BD bottom.
There's no comparison, and yet here we go.  The framing was pretty close, at 1.84:1, as opposed to the blu's 1.85:1.  But the story is obviously the resolution, which is crushed even further on a non-anamorphic DVD to something like 533x291p.  It's just a mess of artifacts, jagged edges and extreme edge enhancement.  The colors are crushed and the blacks are frequently milky.  This blu is like a whole new movie.  The Italian mono is restored to LPCM with optional English subtitles; it's like a whole new movie.

The DVD was also barebones.  Fun fact: Catherine Breillat worked on the French translation for this film.  It would've been neat if Criterion got her on camera to talk about that, since they have a relationship with her.  But oh well.  They did come up with one sweet extra; a vintage-hour long 'making of' documentary.  It has a distracting RAI watermark bouncing around the screen the entire time, and the picture quality in general is pretty low; but otherwise it's terrific.
Finally, we have another one of the titles I was most excited for, 1987's Intervista, a fantastical portrait of Cinecitta Studios and Fellini's personal history with it.  This film just oozes charm, from Sergio Rubini as a young Fellini fascinated by the wonders of their epic film productions to the reunion of Marcello Mastroianni (in full Mandrake regalia!) and Anita Ekberg, all under the guise of filming Kafka's Amerika.  Few films, if any, have ever managed to exude the magic of cinema so perfectly.

Intervista's only been available on DVD up 'till now.  In 2005, Koch Lorber put out an okay disc, but it hasn't aged well.  So Criterion's new 2020 BD, restored in 4k from the original 35mm camera negative, is another revelation.
2005 Koch DVD top; 2020 Criterion BD bottom.
Koch's DVD is widescreen at 1.84:1, which is tempting to call the wrong aspect ratio.  But apart from being shy of 1.85, it should be noted that the film did play theatrically in some regions in that ratio, it's more of an "alternative" ratio than the wrong one.  Still, this was made for Italian TV, and Criterion's 1.37:1 is probably the way the film really should be seen.  But a case could be made for the widescreen, as opposed to the terrible interlacing of Koch's disc, which is indefensible.  So thank goodness for Criterion finally bringing this adventure to HD.  Artifacts are gone and in there place is a natural film grain that had been smoothed away in SD.  The colors have been adjusted, too.  Is the woman in the center wearing a pink or orange skirt (based on other shots, I'd say Criterion has it right).

There might be some question about the audio.  The DVD has the original Italian in stereo and an obviously revisionist 5.1 mix.  The blu has mono.  I believe the stereo mix was created for the film theatrically, and the mono is the original television mix.  Either way, both have optional English subs and the BD has lossless LPCM.
only on the DVD
Extras-wise, both disc came pretty well equipped.  Koch had a great, hour-long documentary on the making of the film, including exclusive interviews with the cast and crew, plus the trailer and a stills gallery.  Unfortunately, Criterion lost that doc.  They have a different hour-long doc, which is more on Fellini in general, plus another interview with him, an audio interview with Mastroianni that used to be on their La Dolce Vita blu, and a collection of ads and stuff Fellini created for Fred & Ginger (one of multiple great films conspicuously and disappointingly absent from this set).  So, some decent stuff, but nothing Intervista-specific.  Hang onto your DVDs for that.
But that's not all!  This set includes a bonus BD disc with an over 3-hour long documentary about Marcello Mastroianni called I Remember from 1997, a film that had been previously released on DVD by Fox Lorber back in 2000.  It's directed by his girlfriend at the time, documentary filmmaker Anna Maria Tatò, which allowed the film to get very intimate with Marcello, giving this film a unique, personal and slightly eccentric feel to it.  Interestingly, after his death in 1996, Catherine Deneuve, their daughter and his ex-wife united in trying to prevent the film from being released, but they didn't succeed.  Anyway, there's a brief tag at the opening referring to this film's restoration, but it doesn't divulge any details.  The film's presented in 1.66:1 and looks attractive in HD, though the English 5.1 mix is lossy.

Essential Fellini comes in a large, flat laserdisc-sized box that includes a 156-page book of essays on each film (i.e. what you'd get in your traditional Criterion booklets but all bound together) and another 84-page guide to his films, which is where the more practical descriptions, lists of extras and "About the Transfer"s can be found.  It's a fantastic set, and with so many films being made available in HD - or with these latest restorations - for the first time, they've surely got every serious film lover drooling over it.  It's just a shame that, like with their Bergman box, it still leaves you needing to collect so many other great films by the director that've been left out.  I hate to think of how many people will buy this and think they've got the complete collection.  But they will have more than a great start; they'll be more than halfway there with an amazing set of films and features to dig into.