Update 12/28/14 - 1/12/15: Let's do it right. I'm adding screenshots and details of Troma's original DVD to the comparison.
Update 11/8/23: Ah, sanity has been restored to the madness, and this page has been completely overhauled accordingly. I've been waiting for Vinegar Syndrome to come and save the day with this title since they first started going through Troma's catalog. Well, it took a long time, but it's finally here: Rabid Grannies restored in 4k on blu.
Troma released it in the US, but heavily edited and with an ugly. full-frame. It was released by European/ Japan Shock on identical Holland and Japan discs, widescreen and uncut, but with conspicuous, unremovable subtitles burnt into the image, and still a murky, unimpressive picture. So in 2012, I was really excited to hear that the film's original producer Johan Vandewoestijne (a.k.a. James Desert) was releasing it via his company Zeno Pictures, as a 25th Anniversary Special Edition. A loaded, 2-disc cut with a new edit of the film. Wait, what?
Here's what they said, "In the original version, the horror starts after 36 minutes. Now we made a re-edit and everything that what we called ballast is thrown out. So now the horror starts after 12 minutes. All the original gory scenes remained. We made new credits EVERY SINGLE shot was resized to a scope version. But we made sure that during the resizing 'no heads' were cut off." Uhh, not so sure about this "re-edit" notion... But fortunately the set also includes the original cut on the other disc, so everybody wins, right?
Holy cow.
Let's start with disc 1. The discs are only labeled "Disc 1" and "Disc 2," so you have to put them in your player to find out which version of the film you're going to watch. But, that's a piffling, nitpicky criticism, no time to get bogged down in little issues like that. We've got to get to Disc 1, let's see which version it is.
Why, it's the old European Shock disc. I sure didn't see that one comin'. Literally, it's the same disc, with the same menus, features and even Shock's company logo at the start.
One of many shots only in the uncut version. |
And it even has a couple little extras, taken from the Troma disc. There's a very brief, three minute interview with producer Vandewoestijne full of Troma graphics and weirdo edits... but at least he's talking about the movie. And there's also an interview with the "Original R. Grannies." That sounds promising until you find out it's actually not an interview with the original Rabid Grannies stars at all. It's a silly 2 minute interview skit with a random woman Troma hired to pretend to be a rabid granny. There's also Troma's VHS trailer and a junky photo gallery.
You might recall that Troma's disc had an audio commentary as well, by writer/ director Emmanuel Kervyn. Well, that was never on the Shock discs and it's not here either. Part or all of the issue there is surely that the commentary was recorded for the heavily censored shorter cut (not to be confused with the new, even shorter cut made for this 25th Anniversary), so it wouldn't sync up here. Troma included the gore footage only as deleted scenes outside of the main film. But for this big, special 2-disc set; it would've been nice if they squeezed the commentary in somewhere.
So anyway, that was weird. They just gave us the Japan Shock disc. Okay. Now onto Disc 2 - time for that amazing new cut of the film that's going to look smashing! A brand new transfer, now in "scope," boy oh boy oh boy....
2012 Shock DVD, disc 2. |
'So, they literally didn't do anything to it? It's just disc 1 made anamorphic?' Oh, no, no. They certainly did... things to it. They cut about twenty-two minutes out of it, for a start. Yeah, the back of the box and the advertising all call this new cut 75 minutes, but it actually only runs for 66. Tighter pacing? I guess, but you'd have to really dislike the original to think it's a better film in this cut. Literally an entire third has been removed, often in big chunks. Sure, there's films I dislike and think the only way to make it better would be to make it shorter and shorter; but I generally don't buy those movies on DVD. Who is this set being marketed to? "If you hate Rabid Grannies, you'll hate this less. Only $25!"
They also altered the colors, often heavily tinting a scene to be a certain color. And they upped the contrast, generally tinkering around with it in an editing program like Final Cut. You could argue that aspect of things looks better. Maybe, in some shots (we'll come back to this). The boosted contrast at least makes the blacks blacker. Some shots look alright. It's not faithful or respectful of the original film; but it's not terrible work in that department.
But the framing! Oh, let's talk about the framing! Yes, it's in "scope" now, roughly 2:18.1. Of course the film wasn't shot to be screened in that ratio, so why is it now? I guess the producer (Kervyn was not involved with this release) just thought it looked better in scope, right? Actually, no, I don't think so. Another possible reason bears its head once you compare at these discs. Assuming the print was taken from the Shock disc because Vandewoestijne had no access to any film materials that the rest of us in the general public have, well, the Shock disc had huge, burnt in subtitles, right? So to get rid of those big subtitles, he'd had to have cut the bottom of the picture off!
Shock version on the left; new "scope" version on the right. |
And the new credits they speak of are pretty immaterial... the original and new ones are both just simple white text against a plain black background. The new credits are just made to replace the lower quality of the original transfer (video shakiness and blurriness), and most of the credits have simply been removed entirely from the new version.
To add frustration to the fire, Disc 2 features a new, 37 minute "Behind the Movie" documentary. But there is no English audio or subtitling. Ahh! It looks really interesting (even though they stretch their behind the scenes VHS footage from 4:3 to 16x9); but I guess I'll never know. Oh well. As a fan of Rabid Grannies, I would actually have loved to watch that.
In 2015, I thought we were saved when Troma announced Rabid Grannies' HD debut on a new blu-ray release... until it turned out they were just releasing that awful 66 minute "producer's cut!" That makes it one of the incredibly rare instances where the BD was actually worse than the past DVDs. But eight more years later, and Vinegar Syndrome have done it right, restoring it in 4k from the original 35mm interpositive (yes, this film was shot on 16, but they blew it up to 35 for distribution). I was beginning to worry that the original film elements were lost (hence the crap-sourced discs everyone had been releasing), but no, all's ended well.
1) 1999 Troma DVD; 2) 2012 Shock DVD disc 1; 3) 2012 Shock DVD disc 2; 4) 2023 Vinegar Syndrome BD. |
(There's no screenshot from the producer's cut here
because this shot isn't in the producer's cut.)
because this shot isn't in the producer's cut.)
As you can see, and as we already knew, the Shock disc is widescreen at 1.60:1, and
the Troma disc is fullscreen at 1.30:1. Troma's disc is not open matte; it's
clearly chopped off on both sides. And we've already discussed how much more butchered the producer's cut is. VS's new blu is slightly pillar boxed to 1.67:1, with more vertical and horizontal picture than any previous release. Shock 's DVD is clearer, warmer and more distinct than Troma's, but it's not a huge gap - it's at least nice that the subtitles aren't burnt into the
Troma disc. That and the fact that Shock's DVD is non-anamorphic makes it almost a tie between the two, though at the end of the day, the purist in me has to give it to the latter. Especially since the real Achilles' heel of the Troma disc is that it's cut,
which really slices the fun out of this movie. Anyway, it's all academic now, because VS's new blu is the clear and obvious winner, with vastly improved detail and properly delineated colors. It finally looks like a real movie!
Every disc just has the original mono track, except the producer's cut, which boasts a new 5.1 mix we're told by Desert is "now stereo and more dynamic." Vinegar Syndrome goes back to the mono, cleans it up (the old ones have hiss and pops) and bumps it up to DTS-HD. None of the DVDs have any useful subtitles, but Shock has burnt in Dutch subs on disc 1 and optional Dutch ones on the producer's cut. Vinegar Syndrome gives us optional English subtitles for the first time.
Every disc just has the original mono track, except the producer's cut, which boasts a new 5.1 mix we're told by Desert is "now stereo and more dynamic." Vinegar Syndrome goes back to the mono, cleans it up (the old ones have hiss and pops) and bumps it up to DTS-HD. None of the DVDs have any useful subtitles, but Shock has burnt in Dutch subs on disc 1 and optional Dutch ones on the producer's cut. Vinegar Syndrome gives us optional English subtitles for the first time.
2023 Vinegar Syndrome BD, commentary transfer. |
Happily, the 25th Anniversary 'Behind the Movie' feature is here, too, now with English subtitles. And yeah, Desert repeats a few anecdotes, but there are a bunch of exclusive stories and looks at the original locations, too. He also shows and talks about his producer's cut, so if you're curious but don't want to actually buy the Troma BD to see what it's like, you can still find out here.
Forgotten Scares: An In-depth Look at Flemish Horror Cinema |
Seriously, don't be fooled by Troma's distribution. They've acquired a lot of movies over the years, from The Stendhal Syndrome to Lucio Fulci's New Gladiators. They're not the same thing as original Troma productions. This has much more in common with The Evil Dead than The Class of Nuke 'Em High or whatever. Yeah, Desert is a little bit right that the first half hour does over-explain that every family member is out for the aunt's money, which gets a little bit tedious. But otherwise, this is just a really good, fun horror comedy and it's finally gotten a home video release it's always deserved.
The original pressing of the Shock disc had a second disc with the hilarious FORKLIFT DRIVER KLAUS short on it -- I definitely won't be dropping that release any time soon! It's a shame this title can't seem to get a fair shake -- I wonder if the materials were sent to Troma when they purchased North American rights?
ReplyDeleteKLAUS is sheer genius. I have the standalone disk. A sequel came out within the past year, but I have not seen it yet.
ReplyDeleteFor GRANNIES, I went with the XT Video 2-disc edition which has 3 versions...still 2 more than I'll ever watch.
And... Troma announced a Blu-Ray for 3/10/15...
ReplyDeleteI think I'll wait for the reviews first.
Yeah, crazy. I saw it like an hour after I updated this post. I *HOPE* we get a nice, HD version of the widescreen uncut version, but I'm pretty skeptical.
DeleteOh boy, Vinegar Syndrome just announced a great looking new BD of this film - hope to see you review and compare when it comes out later this month!
ReplyDeleteHell yeah! Every monthly announcement from VS since 2014, I've been checking "Rabid Grannies?!"
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